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T O P I C R E V I E WGeminiyoungsterI don't know what it is, but all my life, I have had people who say the most horrible things behind my back and its just so zany! Or they wont leave me alone. I would not call it bullying but its just to the point where i feel like its weird. Its like they love to see me mad or something.. I used to think it was all in my head..I know my 11th house is full of planets could this be a reason. Im pretty quiet and liberal thinking in the conservative south! Update... thank you guys so much for the response..NYCdodgerI empathize with you. Let people be people. Theres nothing you can do to change how others see/do things until they are ready to do it themselves.Also you have to remember that people have the right to say negative things about you. Sounds weird but its true. A lot of people walk around with the idea that EVERYONE is meant to have great experiences and feedback towards them..If that were true life would be boring....be who you naturally arePeace Geminiyoungster quote:Originally posted by NYCdodger:I empathize with you. Let people be people. Theres nothing you can do to change how others see/do things until they are ready to do it themselves.Also you have to remember that people have the right to say negative things about you. Sounds weird but its true. A lot of people walk around with the idea that EVERYONE is meant to have great experiences and feedback towards them..If that were true life would be boring....be who you naturally arePeace Are you a libra rising? Just a thought?And thank you!Electro DGXNYCDodger has a point. Also I noticed Chiron in the eleventh, which is the house of Aquarius and indicates groups and friendships. ------------------Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, NeptuneScorpio Mars conj. Asc in First8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine UranusHave you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet?NYCdodgerAqua/Pisces 1st housebananazFirst things I noticed are Mars & Chiron in the 11th, which could be the source of the problem. The Ruler of Mars is in your 7th, showing tension with others. I think your solution is shown in your North Node. Figure out in this lifetime how to communicate effectively. The Libra Rising should help you tremendously. Pisces Plutonian Chiron in the 11th.Your Venus inconjunct Pluto could also be a cause of people talking about you if they find you unattractive.DopGangHmmm... Gemini sun (sign of communication) square Saturn in Pisces (that communication can be negative and based on illusions) I took a stab there. NovabronteA very quick look from karmic astrology perspective:Uranus is RX which is a karma of family and societal difficulties. Uranus rules your 11th house. Uranus rx can play havoc with relationships because of your changeability, which can make you appear hypocritical. And Libra cusp house is where you 'rip what you saw' because of the imbalance in the past, and your former traits/attitudes are being mirrored back to you by those in your environment. In other words you could be targeted personally by these people,but not necessarily. Your Jupiter is RX so you are a free spirit :-), but you tend to procrastinate plan re-plan etc, try to balance that, there is no point thinking up endless scenarios, just follow your intuition. Chiron in Leo in 11th house indicates a crisis over the ego and over the possibility of playing a unique role in culture . Focusing on the creativity of the 5th house can help you to build a strong ego structure in the way you can feel you can play a special role in society. Uranus rules Aquarius and its located in 4th House Capr, so this creative effort could be something that's practical and related to home lifestyle. Additionally, you have intercepted signs in houses 3 and 9. This indicates frustration with expressing the positive qualities of these signs.It is important to focus on overcoming these. Intercepted Gemini in 9th House - indicate some lessons concerning happiness. This is why you may tend to get moody or depressed.Think about planets here - Sun and Mercury and how they play out. SN here indicates that in the past lifetime you have been causing a bit of trouble by gossiping and focusing on trivial stuff. You must turn your back on pretending sophistication and become real and natural.Intercepted Sag in 3rd House - some communications problems. Either you are not heard right, or you dont hear things the way you should. This extends to relating things to others that is wrong. So Note : Perhaps you are misinterpreting the others gossiping about you, they could be just stirring you up as a joke.NN here is for you to learn loyalty and allegiance, and there is a need to develop a strong sense of individual identity. Dont scatter your energies.In order to overcome the problems of intercepted signs look to duplicate signs of Libra and Aries and the planets there. They are your 'tools' that can alleviate the frustrations. Libra and Aries are working overtime as they are on the cusps of two houses each, so these hardworking 4 houses and their rulers can help.CheersNovadiamondbabyAries Descendant and Venus in Aries (Venus is in detriment in Aries)teasel.........................nordicsoulI have noticed that in some cultures it is "normal" to not speak their mind in front of you (play nice) and then talk about peoples back. there are exceptions in any case of course.why people talk about your back? unless you notice that same people talk about you dont talk about the others behind their back, then do not take it personally. Instead, if you hear some negative comments, do not react personally, just reflect and try to think if there is some true to the statements.. maybe asking a "true" friend for feedback and ask him-her to be VERY honest.Many people do not say what they think of others because they do not want to hurt or they do not have he guts to face the other people reaction. I am in my 40s and I have met very FEW people willing to be 100 honest. most of the times you find sugar coating types. my experience!!my decision? i just filter what people say. when I learned that someone has said X and Y about me I tried to look at me and evaluate if there is some true to it. if I do not find the comment fair, i just move on. at the end of the day, people project a lot their own negative qualities, and people perceive same qualities as negative or positive depending on their own issues.nordicsoul quote:Originally posted by bananaz:First things I noticed are Mars & Chiron in the 11th, which could be the source of the problem. The Ruler of Mars is in your 7th, showing tension with others. I think your solution is shown in your North Node. Figure out in this lifetime how to communicate effectively. The Libra Rising should help you tremendously. I have chiron in 11 and scorpio in 7th and aries in 12. I do have experienced many times the backstabbing situation, but at this point in my life I do not take it personally. I see as most people do that to the others as well. I do not think they are after me. However, I would say, I never do that to my friends. I have a need to say the things that needs to be comunicated even if it not easy, but I owe that to people who truest me. But I have learned I cannot apply my standards to others.I have developed sort of a cynical attitude. If I meet someone like me in their approach to friendship BINGO, lucky me, but I stopped having those high expectations.. LOL.. I just realized few people I have met share the value of full honesty...NinePluto in the 1st, perhaps.
I used to think it was all in my head..
I know my 11th house is full of planets could this be a reason. Im pretty quiet and liberal thinking in the conservative south!
Update... thank you guys so much for the response..
Also you have to remember that people have the right to say negative things about you. Sounds weird but its true. A lot of people walk around with the idea that EVERYONE is meant to have great experiences and feedback towards them..
If that were true life would be boring....be who you naturally are
Peace
quote:Originally posted by NYCdodger:I empathize with you. Let people be people. Theres nothing you can do to change how others see/do things until they are ready to do it themselves.Also you have to remember that people have the right to say negative things about you. Sounds weird but its true. A lot of people walk around with the idea that EVERYONE is meant to have great experiences and feedback towards them..If that were true life would be boring....be who you naturally arePeace
Are you a libra rising? Just a thought?
And thank you!
Also I noticed Chiron in the eleventh, which is the house of Aquarius and indicates groups and friendships.
------------------Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, NeptuneScorpio Mars conj. Asc in First8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine UranusHave you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet?
I think your solution is shown in your North Node. Figure out in this lifetime how to communicate effectively. The Libra Rising should help you tremendously.
Gemini sun (sign of communication) square Saturn in Pisces (that communication can be negative and based on illusions) I took a stab there.
Uranus is RX which is a karma of family and societal difficulties. Uranus rules your 11th house. Uranus rx can play havoc with relationships because of your changeability, which can make you appear hypocritical. And Libra cusp house is where you 'rip what you saw' because of the imbalance in the past, and your former traits/attitudes are being mirrored back to you by those in your environment. In other words you could be targeted personally by these people,but not necessarily. Your Jupiter is RX so you are a free spirit :-), but you tend to procrastinate plan re-plan etc, try to balance that, there is no point thinking up endless scenarios, just follow your intuition.
Chiron in Leo in 11th house indicates a crisis over the ego and over the possibility of playing a unique role in culture . Focusing on the creativity of the 5th house can help you to build a strong ego structure in the way you can feel you can play a special role in society. Uranus rules Aquarius and its located in 4th House Capr, so this creative effort could be something that's practical and related to home lifestyle.
Additionally, you have intercepted signs in houses 3 and 9. This indicates frustration with expressing the positive qualities of these signs.It is important to focus on overcoming these.
Intercepted Gemini in 9th House - indicate some lessons concerning happiness. This is why you may tend to get moody or depressed.Think about planets here - Sun and Mercury and how they play out. SN here indicates that in the past lifetime you have been causing a bit of trouble by gossiping and focusing on trivial stuff. You must turn your back on pretending sophistication and become real and natural.
Intercepted Sag in 3rd House - some communications problems. Either you are not heard right, or you dont hear things the way you should. This extends to relating things to others that is wrong. So Note : Perhaps you are misinterpreting the others gossiping about you, they could be just stirring you up as a joke.NN here is for you to learn loyalty and allegiance, and there is a need to develop a strong sense of individual identity. Dont scatter your energies.
In order to overcome the problems of intercepted signs look to duplicate signs of Libra and Aries and the planets there. They are your 'tools' that can alleviate the frustrations. Libra and Aries are working overtime as they are on the cusps of two houses each, so these hardworking 4 houses and their rulers can help.
CheersNova
why people talk about your back? unless you notice that same people talk about you dont talk about the others behind their back, then do not take it personally. Instead, if you hear some negative comments, do not react personally, just reflect and try to think if there is some true to the statements.. maybe asking a "true" friend for feedback and ask him-her to be VERY honest.
Many people do not say what they think of others because they do not want to hurt or they do not have he guts to face the other people reaction. I am in my 40s and I have met very FEW people willing to be 100 honest. most of the times you find sugar coating types. my experience!!
my decision? i just filter what people say. when I learned that someone has said X and Y about me I tried to look at me and evaluate if there is some true to it. if I do not find the comment fair, i just move on. at the end of the day, people project a lot their own negative qualities, and people perceive same qualities as negative or positive depending on their own issues.
quote:Originally posted by bananaz:First things I noticed are Mars & Chiron in the 11th, which could be the source of the problem. The Ruler of Mars is in your 7th, showing tension with others. I think your solution is shown in your North Node. Figure out in this lifetime how to communicate effectively. The Libra Rising should help you tremendously.
I have chiron in 11 and scorpio in 7th and aries in 12. I do have experienced many times the backstabbing situation, but at this point in my life I do not take it personally. I see as most people do that to the others as well. I do not think they are after me. However, I would say, I never do that to my friends. I have a need to say the things that needs to be comunicated even if it not easy, but I owe that to people who truest me. But I have learned I cannot apply my standards to others.
I have developed sort of a cynical attitude. If I meet someone like me in their approach to friendship BINGO, lucky me, but I stopped having those high expectations.. LOL.. I just realized few people I have met share the value of full honesty...
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